The most popular podcaster in the world, Joe Rogan, is known for getting high quality guests, especially amongst those who might be considered of a more conservative or alternative point of view.
Rogan is a UFC commentator and former comedian who has made a name for himself amongst young men as someone who can straight talk and get to the heart of topics that others choose not to cover.
He is sometimes hostile to religion, recently declaring that the Vatican is ‘full of paedophiles’, but in general challenges guests and allows their viewpoints to be heard.
Seth Dillon, owner of the successful satirical website the Babylon Bee, managed to get into a conversation about abortion with Rogan.
Rogan began the segment by asking about hard cases of abortion, such as rape and those where a minor gets pregnant.
Rogan then asked about when an abortion was right or wrong during the process of pregnancy, asking is some ‘miraculous event’ occurs.
Dillon replies ‘Well at some point there is because we become humans’.
Rogan then points out his opposition to late term abortion.
Although the two do not see eye to eye overall, Rogan’s opposition to late term abortion is an olive branch and the openness of the conversation is unusual for such a popular platform.
Many US media outlets, which are overwhelmingly tied to the culture of death, have claimed that Rogan’s responses represented some sort of victory for the pro abortion side. Rogan admitted that it was a human life within the womb. He did not address elective abortions, which make up essentially all abortions that occur and he even expressed disgust at late term abortion, the sort that Kermit Gosnell was infamous for.
The Overton Window in the United States has shifted so much that the idea of abortion on demand is now completely taboo, as Rogan’s reluctance to endorse it proves. Dillon’s patience and Rogan’s desperation to prove his point are a signal that the prolife side has successfully won the efforts to shift the humanity of the living but not born to the center of a debate that has long demonised the child as a parasitic leech.